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Old 05-17-2011, 11:09 AM   #1
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Default 自从我因舞蹈而出色的《我是如何训练升降的》一文发表

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  乐舞儿2004年斯拉维克在桑巴舞中的升降基础功训练:
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  从6分40开始,讲的是桑巴的弹动动作的升降,请看我从新翻译的文字,原翻译里有不专业和过错的处所, 避免误导。
  我想用第一个例子
  and I will like to use the first example
  我想说明在芭蕾舞中的非常基本的动作
  and I will like to explain about very simple basic movement in the ballet dancing
  蹲
  plier(法文)
  而我先要让膝盖柔软
  and I'll our knees softly
  首先当我们在蹲这个动作的上升时,我们老是先伸直腿部
  first thing when we rising up in the plier we alway strighting our legs
  我们继承上升之后,我们才是用脚去上升。
  right after we cotinue rising up by using our feet
  我们当然站在脚掌的内沿上升
  we rising up using feet on inside of ball of foot of course
  假如你能做到而且你能保持平衡
  if you able and if you able to keep balance
  现在往下降 我们先放下脚跟
  now on the way down we have to low our heel first
  而后才压缩膝盖下降。
  and after compressten knees down
  现在你认为可能运用相同的原理于桑巴弹动动作吗?
  now do you think it's possible to use the same principle for samba bounce?
  我不这样认为
  I don't think so
  因为真实 未审很艰苦在桑巴做相同的动作
  because it really hard to create the same action in the samba
  从脚到膝盖,再从膝盖到脚。那会是十分粗拙的跳法。
  it's gona be very rough transfer from foot to knee from knee to foot
  所以我想要做的是:我想做相同的动作
  so what I'd like to do I would like to do the same things
  是在桑巴舞中,独一的动作是并脚到六位脚。
  the only thing I would like to colse my feet to six position to use for samba
  而不是芭蕾舞的一位脚。
  and not first position for ballet dacing
  所以我要并脚,而我现在侧身来,让你看得更明白些。
  so I will like to close feet and I will like to sideways more comfortble for you to see
  现在我的筹备动作是让膝盖柔软。
  now I have preparation softing my knees
  当初当我起来 当我卷动起来
  now when I going up when I rolling up
  我要开始用膝盖卷动,再开始伸直我的膝盖。
  I will like to start roll of course use my knees to start strighting of my knees
  现在就在我完成伸直我的膝盖之前
  now right before I complete my strighting of my knees
  我要开始让我的脚升起,从脚平放的地位到脚掌。
  I will like to start or order rise on my foot to rise from the flat position to the ball of the foot
  我正开端回升
  I'm start to rising up
  脚上升及伸直膝盖一起做 我们做完伸直的动作
  and together with rising foot and strighting knees we complete strighting
  但不要忘却
  but don't forget
  不要完整锁住你的膝盖。
  don't lock your knees complete
  由于在桑巴我们没有时间这么做。
  because in samba we don't have time to do it
  否则在你的膝盖变换时,你的动作会变的很粗糙。
  otherwise your movement gona be very rough with changes in your knees
  所以是要伸直,但依然略微柔软与轻微弯曲。
  so we have to be strighting but slightly still soft and slightly bend
  现在做下降
  now on the way down
  首先咱们应用雷同的原理
  first we gona use the same principle
  开始放下脚跟
  start use our lowing heel down
  但在我的脚跟接触到地板之前
  but before I touch with heel and floor
  我必需先让膝盖柔软
  I have start already softing my knees
  来做柔和的转换动作
  to create soft transferring
  从我的膝盖到脚
  from my knees to the foot
  现在放松我的膝盖的同时
  now with softing my knees
  我放下我的脚跟而且持续放下
  I'm lowing my heel down and continue lowing
  紧缩我的膝盖
  compresstening my knees 02月13日 18:39回复因跳舞而精彩 好的,我一定当真看...... 02月14日 10:05
  乐舞儿 一、芭蕾舞中的异常根本的一位大蹲Grand plie动作:
  http://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMjQzNTE4MzA0/v.swf
  http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjQzNTE4MzA0.html
  预备:芭蕾舞的一位脚(两脚一字形翻开,脚跟对脚跟,两脚尖指向两侧,重心不同内倒也不可 外偏)。
  降:1、弯曲膝盖下蹲。2、曲折膝盖至最大处,脚跟稍稍离地一点点。
  升:1、开始伸直膝盖至半蹲,脚跟落地。2、升直并夹紧腿。
  二、2004年斯拉维克在桑巴舞中的升降基本功练习,我来演绎一下:
  准备:
  并脚到六位脚(两脚的脚尖和脚跟并拢,平放在地板上。注:芭蕾个别只提:一至五脚位)。
  从最低点开始升:1、让膝盖柔软,用膝盖卷动,再开始伸直的膝盖。2、膝盖继续上升之后,在实现伸直之 前,开始让脚升起,从脚平放的位置到脚掌位置。3、脚上升及伸直膝盖一起做,站在脚掌的内沿上升,直到做完 伸直的动作,不要直的完全锁住膝盖,膝盖要伸直,但仍旧轻微柔软与稍微弯曲。而且要坚持好身体的均衡。(要 害词:1、升膝;2、升脚;3、膝脚同升。)(下接:从最高点降低。)
  从最高点下降:1、开始向下放脚跟。2、在的脚跟接触到地板之前,从膝盖到脚柔和地转换(重力的传递) 。3、放松膝盖的同时,放下的脚跟。4、继续放下并压缩膝盖。(症结词:1、放脚;2、放膝;3、膝脚同放 ;4、压膝。)(下接:从最低点开始升,进入下一个轮回。)
  三、华尔兹的升降:
  华尔兹的升降相对庞杂,是垂直活动加程度运动混杂运动型的升降,其中降的最低点是两腿大幅度离开实现的 。正因为华尔兹升降是摆荡式的升降,在原地是无法练习的。练习此升降可参阅我的拙文:《华尔兹摆荡之所以然 》http://user.qzone.qq.com/744808137/blog/1248885913。
  四、这三种舞种的升降方法可以相互替换吗?
  你认为可运用芭蕾大蹲相同的原理于桑巴弹动或华尔兹的摆荡升降动作吗?我不这样认为,因为实在很难题在 桑巴或华尔兹中做相同的动作。所以我们要遵守各舞种的客观特征。
  芭蕾的上升,先升胯并把膝盖拉到绷直后才升脚,以为膝盖不直是不能稳固上升的。华尔兹的上 升: 膝盖是不能绷直的。
  芭蕾的下降是:弯曲膝盖至最大处,脚跟稍稍离地一点点。华尔兹的下降:当弯膝到最大处时,脚跟是要接触 到地板的。
  芭蕾升降请求膝盖锁住,而在桑巴我们不时光这么做。否则在你的膝盖变换时,monster beats hd solo,你的动作会变的很毛糙。
  芭蕾是一个非常重视线条的舞蹈,从脚到膝盖,再从膝盖到脚。舞蹈线条很清晰,弯就是弯,直就是直,人夹 紧了像个雕塑,这就是芭蕾追求的外观效果,但以此来跳桑巴就会显得舞蹈断了,不连贯了,也就长短常粗糙的跳 法。如果用芭蕾大蹲方式去跳华尔兹的话,夹紧、夹紧再夹紧,你升降兴许会委曲做出来,但摆荡确定没有了,可 以想像别人看的后果是一俱木偶在跳舞。哈哈,我看芭蕾舞有点像人模拟木偶在跳舞,ghd iv salon styler,真得很艺术,难度真的很大。路卡所说我们在跳华尔兹时,要像流水一样。他倡导光有架形是不够的,一个好的 水晶羽觞还要装满美酒,按此如说我们的华尔兹是一种“液态舞”的话,桑巴就是“胶状舞”,芭蕾可称之为“固 态舞”。你能跳好芭蕾,同时又能跳好华尔兹、桑巴。解释你和孙悟空一样,一会成虎,一会成牛,一会成马。阐 明你本事高强。但你要是变出个驴头上长出一对鹿角来的东东,是驴?是鹿?让人纠结。神马浮云?怪样子都不是 ,只能算两不像了,开个玩笑不要多心哟,hehe。
  五、其实要原地练习华尔兹的升降,有没有可替代的华尔兹摆荡升降的练习办法?
  我想这个方法已经跃然纸上了,我的构想就是,用斯拉维克讲的桑巴升降方法,结合路卡最新讲的摩登舞的个 人独破平衡方法,就可以结合成为华尔兹原地替代升降练习了。
  从理论上讲,芭蕾的练习,对国标舞的作用很大。从实践上看,拉丁舞的练习,对摩登舞的增进很大。许多摩 登舞的世界冠军,本来都是跳拉丁舞的佼佼者,如马库斯和凯伦,路卡和洛兰等。
  路卡的个人平衡理论是,人的两个腿骨和脊柱及头后骨,造成一个竖立的架子。头挂在最上面,向下顺次是挂 上肩、挂上胸、挂上臀部。所有都是向下自在落下,不要加任何肌肉力量。7分50秒开始:htt p://player.youku.com/player.php/sid/XMTcyNzYyMjg0/v.swf
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  用斯拉维克讲的桑巴升降方式,当然要有点改良,也就是下降时,到脚跟接触地板后,膝盖不须要继续向压了 ,不然不契合汉斯“轻吻”的实践,也就是不合乎冲力与脚与地板接触时间成反比的情理。
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  轻舞飞扬 向“我因跳舞而精彩”提个问题,请思考。
  在“闭式位”、“开式位”和“外侧舞伴位”这三个重要的舞伴绝对位置,前进方(撤退方)做上升和降落在 情势和技术上是否相同?
  因跳舞而精彩 俺已记下,先实践中找一找,再提交“论文”,可否?
  斯倜 “轻舞飞扬”问得无比到位!但答复却难以到位,那是相称的难。不外,在下仍想试着抛块砖,愿望引来高手之“ 玉”。请看我的日志“斯倜自说自话 — 移动中与非移动的上升和下降”。
  众家生佛 呵呵...... 受益匪浅,活到老学到老,摩登舞就是这样越学越精彩!
  轻舞飞腾 各位老师都讲了本人的观点,我感到在跳舞进程中除了升与降还有挪动问题,我没有看到各位老师讲在移动中如何 运用生与降,怎么才干降到位,多高多低才算到位,独自讲升降只是一个高低或高下的问题,tory burch patti wedge,我也是麼登舞喜好者,盼望看到各位老师更具体论述。
  轻舞飞扬 看了大家发表的论点,学到了不少常识,谢谢“我因跳舞而精彩”为大家供给这样的平台,使大家能畅所欲言,充 分展示了体育舞蹈的魅力,我说一下自己的观点,我认为麼登舞的技术要领是划定好了的,是不能转变的,我们只 有依照技术要领来练习能力到达正确和完善。至于下降和上升的气力我认为要依据个人的体重.功力和技术掌控来 权衡,不能按物理等量来衡量,物理等量只是个公式。我们在地板上升降前进后退和旋转的力量来自于地板的反作 用力,换言之就是说,压地板的作用力大,那么上升的力气就大,另外,我们在舞蹈过程中,每一小节的步法方位 动作在不停的变更,脚和地板产生的力量也不是等量的,所以无奈用一个等式来衡量,升也好,降也好,流动是最 好。
  舞中生有 向各位老师问好!切实是精点各有千秋之处,向老师们学习致敬!
  red-skirt 谢谢主人的话题,那么多先辈的精彩探讨和剖析,真让我大开眼界,很享受。我的老师这样教诲我:当我们上升时 ,一不要直膝上升,要让膝盖微微弯曲保持松弛;二要留神脚掌对地板的压力,越升越要踩地,所谓升就是降;三 是上升时要收紧臀部,要有被托起的感到;四是上升要让踝关节充足的开展,让脚跟离地越远越好。而在我们下降 时,仍旧首先要将膝关节放松,让小腿有向前跪的感觉,膝盖不受力,身体从胯部以下的关节都要弯曲,当然弯曲 的多少视我们的才能而作,不用太过,或太寻求低重心。另外必定注意保持上身的垂直和身体向上的感觉,所谓降 就是升。
  再有就是无足升(也称身升足不升)。这种升是脚跟不分开地板的上升,这就更要踩地,使身材和地板发生作 使劲和副作用力,做到身升足不升。
  总之,在舞蹈中的上升与下降,一定要保持我们的脚和地板间的密切关联,越踩地我们的升降会越稳定。当前 再训练“升降“应当会有更多的感触。
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  red-skirt 谢谢老师激励,我也是在一直加深懂得老师们的技术要领,让自己能跳得美妙些,象老师写原创还不敢,但我会尽 力的。
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