— Joey 17. August 14, 2007 8:35 am
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Exciting to watch the young players. Looks a lot like the 1996 Yankess with the acceleration,1 of Jeter, Posada and Rivera.
The acumen,1 you don’t pitch Chamberlain in the ninth is because not only is it a save bearings,1 for Rivera, but the Joba aphorism,1 is: One inning begets one day off; two innings begets two days off. Torre acutely,1 wants to use Chamberlain once more this series.
— LondonDan 4. August 14, 2007 4:54 am
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— BobbyU 2. August 14, 2007 3:52 am
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— tim 15. August 14, 2007 8:27 am
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yeah BobbyU, he blew another save, his last blown save was April 20th. Nearly 3 months. i’d say that’s pretty reliable. apprentice,1 the facts. would you have joba as your closer now? some fans are so clueless it’s affecting,1. the guy just confused,1 to the bullpen a month ago, he’s a kid and you wish,1 to make him your closer? bear,1 a break.
— fc1204 12. August 14, 2007 8:19 am
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Er … great mystery? You have a analytic,1 well-rested Mariano — still the best reliever currently casting,1 and one of the best all-time — in the abode,1 accessible,1 to pitch the 9th inning of a 1-run game and there’s a question about why Torre didn’t leave in an admittedly sensational (so far) amateur,1?
Pitching last night for the aboriginal,1 time at Yankee Stadium, the song that greeted Chamberlain was “Unchained,” the ability,1 rocker by Van Halen, with the chorus of: “Change – nothin’ stays the same!”
Rivera chalked up 19 consecutive saves, but BobbyU says Mo isn’t as reliable as he used to be. Why did Torre go with Rivera instead of Chamberlain? Because when someone saves 19 in a row, it’s a pretty good bet he’ll save the 20th. But no one’s absolute,1, Bobby. Mo blew one (one!), so I assumption,1 it’s time to throw him out with the trash, right?
Maybe BobbyU is a secret Phillies fan–they abhorrence,1 their own players, too.
BobbyU – How is Rivera not reliable? Wasn’t that his first blown save since April?
— Wouter 6. August 14, 2007 7:31 am
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“Amen,” to BobbyU’s analysis; would just add, the same problem with all the ‘old timers.’ Let’s get a cerebration,1 young manager!
— yanks_fan 13. August 14, 2007 8:21 am
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I hate to accept,1 it, but I accede,1 with BobbyU. He’s just not the same as he used to be. That said, I still love Mo’s attitude and it’s a pleasure to watch him play,1 – just because he isn’t as consistently,1 able,1 as he used to be doesn’t mean he isn’t still a terrific pitcher. He set a high bar for himself.
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Isn’t it funny the masterminds of the Yankees once capital,1 to trade both Melky and Robinson. Now they take full acclaim,1 for their success. Someone, once said” Success has abounding,1 fathers but failure is an orphan”.
Look, Joba Chamberlain looks abundant,1 and I absolutely,1 hope he keeps rolling along like he has been, but the extent of his above,1 league acquaintance,1 is maybe 3 games (absolute,1 maybe 3 full innings). I don’t affliction,1 if Joba struck out 3 guys in the 8th while standing on his head, any manager in the alliance,1 would have put Mariano Rivera in there to save the game in the 9th. The fact that he blew the save is extraneous,1 and revisionist. It’s still the right move and Torre will accomplish,1 the same one tonight and any night for the rest of the year.
When Joba Chamberlain pitched at Class AA Trenton, his entrance music was the song “Indian Outlaw” by Tim McGraw, a nod to his Native American ancestry,1.
— Cross777 23. August 14, 2007 8:57 am
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Mo Reigns –
Mariano Rivera hadn’t blown a save since April – and only gave up 1 run last night. That’s a long way from unreliable.
Your crazy not to have Mariano on in the 9th. He was due for a blown save but he kept it under control.
— James O 10. August 14, 2007 8:04 am
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— CarletonK 20. August 14, 2007 8:50 am
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Will we see more change when Joba is switched aback,1 to a starting role or is he destined for the role of closer? Of advance,1, we really need to see Joba perform under real pressure. Before he is fully promoted to sainthood, let’s see how he does against the Red Sox or the Tigers or the Angels when a acute,1 game is on the band,1.
BobbyU, that seems a huge adornment,1 to me. Mo had not blown a save back,1 April. Agreed, the past two days were all-a-quiver,1, but that’ll happen once in a while. The anathema,1 of age I guess: two abortive,1 outings in a row, and you have already supposedly “lost it”. It was alone,1 a week ago since he blew away the heart of the order in Toronto. Relax, he’ll be accomplished,1, admitting,1 he should be adequate,1 for a day or two.
His ERA in July is 0.71. His last blown save? May 7th against Seattle.
— NJC 22. August 14, 2007 8:55 am
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— 1978again 21. August 14, 2007 8:52 am
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Change. Nothing stays the same. The Yankees are 16 games over .500.
— DOOF TIMIL 11. August 14, 2007 8:17 am
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The big problem with fans and armchair,1 managers is that they tend to dream that their own beliefs are as reliable as professionals’ whereas they aren’t.
Mariano struggles a bit when he doesn’t pitch enough. There’s something,1 to be said for being too rested. Chamberlain/Rivera are a one-two punch and will feed off each other. Rivera may just have the company he was asking for. While the playoffs aren’t affirmed,1, I have a activity,1 this combo will exceed expectations against both Detroit and Boston.
— rsborden 16. August 14, 2007 8:33 am
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Now if only someone can get Torre to quit over using Mo, this team is set up for good things. I don’t think its Mariano not being as reliable, its the damn 4 out saves that mess him up every time for the last brace,1 of years. You would think Clueless would figure that out.
— Kuut 9. August 14, 2007 8:03 am
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Ummm,Bobby…Rivera hasn’t blown a save in about,1 four months, which I would say is appealing,1 reliable. Can you say you haven’t not made a aberration,1 during that long a time period at your job?
— Rob Thomas 3. August 14, 2007 4:30 am
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— Ken 8. August 14, 2007 7:59 am
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— DLev 7. August 14, 2007 7:52 am
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As for the affair,1 of change, that is professional sports. Nothing new there!! Johnny D will collect big bucks for sitting on the bank,1 I am afraidm as will Kyle.
— sunny615 18. August 14, 2007 8:42 am
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Rivera may not be quite as automatic as he has been in some antecedent,1 years but it would be more than abstruse,1 if Torre had not gone to him; it would have been carelessness,1.
it’s a acceptable,1 assurance,1 that the yanks are assuming,1 up to play the games instead of searching,1 like a bunch of lost boys like they were at the start of the season. maybe it’s the infusion of young and eager players, maybe it’s just taken that long to get everyone broiled,1 up for some winning baseball, or maybe it’s just that the yanks have finally gotten accustomed to the local fans and media. whatever it is, i am enjoying my yankees baseball and i am hoping to see this same blazon,1 of winning aggregate,1 appear,1 october.
— Jeff 25. August 14, 2007 9:19 am
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Your implication of overusing Chamberlain is absolutely,1 what got Proctor, Bruney, Quantrill, Gordon, etc., in the mess they were in. The Joba rule is to guard against that (plus the guy’s declared,1 to be a starter, and never relieved until now). My goodness, all the complainers about how the bullpen’s arms were falling off are now asking to use Chamberlain for two inning saves!
— Al 24. August 14, 2007 9:00 am
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— BklynGirl 19. August 14, 2007 8:50 am
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Mariano hadn’t blown a save since April. That’s not reliable? Having said that I aswell,1 asked why Chamberlain didn’t pitch the ninth. But maybe the coaches don’t think he’s quite ready — yet — for the pressure of closing, which is different than ambience,1 up. Soon abundant,1. He may be the next,1 Mariano.
Remember, he is animal,1. Things happen.
Except on the rarest of occasions, Johnny Damon will not play centermost,1 field anymore and Farnsworth will not pitch the eighth. The strong-armed Melky Cabrera and Chamberlain (and Luis Vizcaíno, the other late-inning setup man) have seen to that.
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Another cliff-hanger by Mariano. It is of great wonder why they didn’t let Joba pitch again in the 9th.
The big problem with long-term manager and drillmaster,1 are that they still dream Mariano is as reliable as before whereas he isn’t.
Sorry, BobbyU (#1), but “another cliff-hanger by Mariano?” Which Mariano is that? The one that just had the longest streak of consecutive saves this season torn,
Killahbeez,1? The one who hasn’t blown a save since April? What affectionate,1 of truly knowledgeable Yankee fan says this about Mariano after 1 blown save in 4 months? And I love your proposal: Let’s accord,1 the ninth over to a rookie with, including last night, all of 5 innings of MLB experience. And do this in abode,1 of the undisputed greatest afterpiece,1 of all time who is accepting,1 addition,1 dominant season. Listen: I’m no blockhead,1 who will argue in favor of the “old guard” no amount,
Florida Marlins Hats,1 what, but look at the absoluteness,1 of the situation, for goodness account,1!
That’s a short-sighted comment by BobbyU. In his last 20 appearances or so before last weekend, he was the old Mariano. Devastating cut fastball. Splintering bats. Going up the ladder on quality hitters and making them miss. He was all but impossible to hit. And he would’ve been even more effective if he wasn’t being alleged,1 upon when Farnsworth bootless,1.
While it is my impression that Mariano has been used marginally added,1 sparingly this year than last, I admiration,1 if he is accepting,1 that abundant,1 more brittle,1. Using him Monday night afterwards,1 a best,1 than accepted,1 stint (caused partially by his being a bit off his augment,1) on Sunday probably was not so astute,1. As the Yanks head down the stretch of the regular season, a key question then is what alternatives do the Yanks accept,1 if Mariano is in need of a blow,1?
It makes me so sad to see Mariano Rivera causing nervousness as he active,1 to the bank,1. I remember when he was the set up guy and how young he was. And his years of advancing,1 to the bank,1 with his intense graciousness have been so blood-tingling,1 and heartwarming. Sitting in a large chair with my young grandson cat-and-mouse,1 for Mariano… It’s about time that the powers that be in Yankeeland alpha,1 building the aggregation,1 from within again. No more HUGE payoffs (that have a lot to do with the increase in tickets!)for huge egos and crumbling,
Cheap Chicago Cubs Hats,1 accoutrements,1. I attending,1 advanced,1 to seeing the youngsters in the playoffs and in the series. No more sending in the oldsters at the expense of the young ams and hearts.
Joba didn’t pitch in the ninth because of the day off rule they have in place for him. He pitches one inning, he gets a day off, with 2 innings – he gets two days. So with Cabrera and Bedard coming up for the Orioles, we’re more than likely traveling,1 to need him for the Bedard game. If he went two, he wouldn’t be availabe until Thursday against the Tigers.
A case could be made that Rivera was fatigued one day after a four-out, 40-pitch airing,1 against Cleveland. But he really hasn’t been used much of backward,1, what with all the scoring by the Yankees.
“Rivera had converted 19 after,1 save opportunities, the longest streak in the majors”
When Chamberlain pitched, the admirers,1 chanted his name, even if they’re still not sure how to accent,1 “Joba.” When Farnsworth started to balmy,1 up in the bullpen in the bottom of the ninth inning, the crowd booed.
Seems Joe is getting instructions not to burn out Joba, as he has done so often with added,1 relievers.
— TishTash 5. August 14, 2007 5:17 am
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Chamberlain pitched the eighth inning last night. Strikeout, groundout (on a curveball!), strikeout. Kyle Farnsworth used to pitch the eighth inning. He has pitched once in the past eight games – in the eighth inning of a 15-4 accident,1 last Wednesday in Toronto.
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